Tuesday, 31 May 2011

Re: Gamma or beta training w/ theta meditation

it is completely unscientific (my comment), but i agree with you.

i feel that if you have done nback 30minutes a day or more for 180days
(as in 180 different days you played nback for 30minutes or more) at a
least bouts of something relatively consistent (say, 3days a week for
a month, quit a couple weeks, return for 4days a week for a month,
etc) and you have progressed form say dnb2 to dnb6 over that
time...............

i am skeptical of the continued INCREASE in significant benefit in
actual cognitive gain..........i do believe in maintenance forever tho
to keep what you gained, ie perhaps once a week for an
hour............i believe that keeps what you gain.


after something like that, i think it would be more time efficient to
consider some other alternative development, whether it be building
your native vocabulary, a foreign language, music, etc etc etc.


pure speculation of course.........

On May 31, 2:36 pm, "The.Fourth.Deviation." <davidsky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The only thing that seems to be missing from your routine is intensive
> musical training. I noticed that improved my DNB performance.
> How long have you been training to get to D8B? and haven't you noticed
> a decline in perceived benefits at such a high level? In another
> thread I suggest that if we see decreased benefits around 7-8, these
> are probably reasonable times to begin Triple N back, then quad, and
> so on. As for your questions on the beats, I have no real answer
> because I don't understand that they confer any wonderfully
> significant advantages, in terms of time-cost-benefit but I may be
> wrong.
>
> On May 31, 2:04 pm, Ian Axelrod <iaxelro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I know there are quite a few topics on brainwave entrainment, but none
> > of them really address my question, so I am starting a new one. Please
> > forgive me! :)
>
> > For the past few weeks I have been using Beta binaural beats
> > exclusively, and they do seem to help over time. I have been stuck on
> > D8B for a long time, without any real improvement, but I see a 5%~
> > increase in my average percentage accuracy when I do 20 sessions of
> > D8B after 1 hour of brainwave entrainment in the beta state. I do not
> > notice this increase with Gamma brainwave entrainment, although I only
> > have a 30 minute i-doser track, for that.
>
> > I plan to use theta brainwave entrainment while I meditate, as I have
> > quite a lot of trouble quieting my mind down, and it is my
> > understanding that theta may help with this.
>
> > So I am wondering, especially from people with lots of experience with
> > binaural beats, like aguizmo,  which would you suggest I focus on?
> > Should I continue with beta training, which has measurable benefits,
> > or should I switch to gamma training, which is a state that I am told
> > is associated with higher cognitive functioning, problem solving, etc.
> > Beta makes me very focused, which is good and an important part of
> > improving working memory, but gamma may be better for solving problems
> > and learning. Any take?
>
> > My current plan is to continue with beta entrainment and use theta
> > entrainment during meditation to naturally increase my gamma
> > brainwaves, as meditation was shown to do that. But I can change my
> > plan according to the replies here, if they are rational.
>
> > Thanks for taking the time to read this long message.
>
> > -Ian

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