Tuesday, 24 May 2011

Re: Magnesium L-threonate POISONOUS???????

yes, i ordered it via fedex also--but only 1 kilogram (and boy does it
go fast)

strange how the site is untrusted unless you include the host www

i like that https distinguishes that.

untrusted:
https://fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USS002.pdf

trusted:
https://www.fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USS002.pdf


thank you for the clarification.

On May 24, 7:45 pm, Raja <vtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I live in the USA too (Baltimore). The form is required by the EPA that has
> jurisdiction over all chemicals imported into the US of A. Basically the
> validation of positive or negative is over whether the 'chemical' being
> brought in is listed in their database as dangerous or not. If its not
> listed or if it falls under one of their categories of exempted chemicals
> (MgT falls in this category), then it gets a negative. Its just paperwork
> and I wasn't expecting it since no one else mentioned it. Not sure if its
> because they shipped through FedEx but it should apply to all shipments. So
> definitely expect to fill this out the next time you get it through Orchid.
> I think the TSCA forms are available online. Here's a link:https://fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USS002.pdf
>
> The form is pretty much self explanatory except for the positive or negative
> thing, which you know about now.
>
> Yes, the 1% drop in purity was disappointing for me too but it might be the
> normal variation during synthesis. Hope other purchasers would pitch in with
> info from their COAs.
>
> Anyways, will be happy to share my experiences with MgT. I hope there'll be
> more studies soon too.
>
> -Raja.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > most interesting.
>
> > i didnt have to fill anything out........i live in the USA, not sure
> > if that matters.
>
> > can you send me what you filled out, or what was required, etc? I am
> > not sure I follow the problem..........
>
> > esp "So the answer would be no / negative. " ?????
>
> > i do plan on purchasing more..........
>
> > I am also disconcerted about that 1% drop in purity..........it is
> > already nerve racking enough.
>
> > :(
>
> > :(
>
> > there was one other place i found on alibaba that says they would sell
> > a kg. i think i posted it here, but maybe not.........but i dont know
> > if they are more or less legit than orchid........we do know that
> > orchid has sold mgT to at least 3 members here, and with you, i guess
> > 4.
>
> > On May 24, 3:45 pm, Raja <vtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Len,
>
> > > Appreciate the input. I saw another description which summed it up the
> > same
> > > way but I am glad to get a confirmation. I have sent off the TSCA form
> > and I
> > > am now sitting back and waiting to receive my MgT. Hope it gets here
> > soon.
>
> > > Raja.
>
> > > Side note: I was sent a second COA by Orchid along with my shipping
> > > information. This was different from the one they sent me in their first
> > > mail. The purity was a little lower (98.29% Vs. 99.25% stated in the
> > first
> > > COA). Felt a little 'baited and switched'. Not really sure if the
> > slightly
> > > lower purity means anything significant but just wanted to post it so
> > that
> > > anyone else thinking of buying this from Orchid in the future knows what
> > to
> > > expect when dealing with them.
>
> > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Len Jones <L...@leonard-jones.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Re TCSA Found this:
>
> > > >http://www.ispharm.com/download/MSDS/I07-0130%20MSDS_I07-0130.pdf
>
> > > > CAS# 778571-57-6 is not listed on Canada's Ingredient Disclosure
> > > > List.
> > > > US FEDERAL TSCA CAS# 778571-57-6 is not listed on the TSCA inventory.
> > > > It is for research and development use only.
>
> > > > So the answer would be no / negative.
>
> > > > [Usual disclaimers about not being responsible for anything go here]
>
> > > > On May 24, 3:44 pm, Raja <vtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > FedEx is asking me to fill out a TSCA form. Apparently something to
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > shipment clearing the US customs. Did anyone else have to fill this
> > out?
> > > > Did
> > > > > you do a 'positive' or 'negative' certification on MgT? Please help
> > me
> > > > out
> > > > > on this one guys! Thanks in advance.
>
> > > > > Raja.
>
> > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:59 AM, ailambris <ailamb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Du0d
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 5:23 pm, cosmos <cosmos.cognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The email I received contained the section you quoted below and
> > the
> > > > > > > following.
>
> > > > > > > "It is just for R&D Purpose [sic]. Despite it could be as
> > material
> > > > for
> > > > > > > brain health products"
>
> > > > > > > Orchid appears to be offering a disclaimer against potential
> > future
> > > > > > > liability. The company has the appearance of a chemical supplier,
> > and
> > > > > > > not a supplement wholesaler with the legal liabilities that
> > entails.
> > > > > > > Rather, Orchid claims that their product may serve as an input to
> > > > > > > brain health supplements intended for human consumption, such as
> > what
> > > > > > > Sabre Sciences offers.
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 2:53 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I hope that got your attention.
>
> > > > > > > > For all those who received mgT from Orchid chemical in China,
> > and
> > > > who
> > > > > > > > perhaps did not get the email:
>
> > > > > > > > '
> > > > > > > > We Orchid have to declare that our goods Magnesium L-threonate
> > is
> > > > just
> > > > > > > > chemical product, it should not be eaten directly,  it is not
> > > > edible !
>
> > > > > > > > '
>
> > > > > > > > This guy named Jonathan Toomim had mentioned that he could test
> > the
> > > > > > > > stuff with some device he had access to, but he never got back
> > to
> > > > me
> > > > > > > > (no answers to 3 emails over time).
>
> > > > > > > > :(
>
> > > > > > > > I sincerely hope we are not ingesting something that may be
> > > > poisonous
> > > > > > > > to humans in the formulation provided (perhaps it needed some
> > > > > > > > stabilizer)
>
> > > > > > > > I mean, i have bad taste buds, and therefore i could hardly
> > even
> > > > taste
> > > > > > > > the stuff......but i believe Jonathan stated that it tasted
> > awful
> > > > (or
> > > > > > > > similar).....maybe he tasted contaminants??????
>
> > > > > > > > be forewarned..........may not want to consume that mgT
> > > > > > > > guys.............
>
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