I got my 1kg from Orchid last Thursday and took a 600mg dose just to
start with. Did not notice anything.
I wrote to Jessie the same day inquiring about the proper usage of
product and if he had any recommendations. That was when I told him
that I had just ingested some, of which he replied that it was not
safe for human consumption and that it was used for R&D purposes. I
responded exclaiming that there is a bunch of customers consuming this
stuff and directed him towards these threads. He thanked me for the
heads up and I guess thats when everyone here and the longecity thread
started receiving the warning emails from Orchid.
Again I am just sitting here hoping for some chemist amongst us to
determine whether its safe or not. Until then I am unsure of touching
my 1kg of MgT.
On May 20, 1:36 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wombattery,
>
> did you finally get ahold of Jessie Zhou from Orchid?
>
> yes, i have been taking it quite awhile now.............
>
> i noticed nothing on working memory.
>
> what i have noticed so slightly is less mental fatigue.........it
> seems i recover faster, say, after doing dnb for instance. i dont know
> if this is related to mgT or what........
>
> it does seem i am more mentally alert, kind of being lifted out of a
> slight fog........like if i took a 25mg benadryl or something (i have
> no freakin idea why that stuff messes me up for a day--i actually feel
> numb from the stuff).........and then the effects wore off.........
>
> mgT seems to do something similar, i think.........
>
> but i could have some underlaying issue............
>
> for instance, i recently had tDCS done..........now i love doing dnb4
> at 2 seconds. 3 seconds seems unbelievably slow...........
>
> i probly should go down to 1.5 seconds actually.............
>
> i pretty much stopped dnb unfortunately.
>
> being stuck with 90-100% has been so unbelievably frustrating that i
> just dont want to do it anymore.........it really doesnt make sense to
> me that i can perform so well on that level, yet get no better than
> pure guessing on dnb5 (so it seems)
>
> maybe i should try single nback on sound and position or
> something..................
>
> On May 16, 12:30 pm, Wombattery <anguyen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > whoisbambam
>
> > fair enough. Like many things, there's inter-varability responses
> > between everyone. I truly just wanted to know your opinion.
>
> > So its been quite a while now that you have been on the MgT regimen.
> > Do you feel its something you would stick to -benefits/cost? Or to
> > early to tell...
>
> > I was also wondering how early in the trial you started noticing
> > effects?
>
> > On May 15, 1:35 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > who knows.
>
> > > do what you must.........
>
> > > i am merely reporting back to you a logical POV based on the existing
> > > research.............
>
> > > it wouldnt make much sense that 500mg of MgT would make that much of a
> > > cognitive difference........
>
> > > i am not going to bother reading..............
>
> > > On May 14, 3:59 pm, Wombattery <anguyen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > whoisbambam,
>
> > > > So what do you make of angus' and Lufega's report on their immediate
> > > > perceived improved effects on short and long term memory, who take
> > > > 600mg and 500mg respectively?
>
> > > > Lufega report on the 500mg dose can be seen here:http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/45717-magnesium-l-threonate/
>
> > > > On May 11, 7:48 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Wombattery,
>
> > > > > the stuff from sabre sciences is 200 mg per teaspoon.
>
> > > > > that is like spitting in the ocean.
>
> > > > > according to the RAT study, i did a human conversion, and you need to
> > > > > take about 6 grams a day for 21days in order to get 7% higher
> > > > > magnesium gradient into the CSF of the brain--then it can act as a
> > > > > message modifier, allowing 'memories' to form easier and more
> > > > > efficiently--it does not affect working memory, but works on a
> > > > > cellular level, if you will (something with nmda stuff and chemical
> > > > > messaging at the synaptic level), allowing you to store NEW
> > > > > information for long term memory better.
>
> > > > > 200mg a dose from sabre sciences isnt going to cut it.
>
> > > > > On May 11, 12:37 pm, Wombattery <anguyen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > whoisbambam,
>
> > > > > > Can you please let me know what the differences in effect is between
> > > > > > the products from Sabre sciences andOrchidfrom China? I am planning
> > > > > > to order from Sabre as theOrchidis taking too long in responding to
> > > > > > my quote request. However, if there are significant effects
> > > > > > differences between the two I will hold out forOrchid. There can you
> > > > > > please let me know how long it takes for the effects to kick in and at
> > > > > > what dose?
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > On May 6, 7:54 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > thanks for the explanation.
>
> > > > > > > On May 6, 3:58 pm, Jonathan Toomim <jtoo...@jtoomim.org> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Based on what I know of how MgT works, and how the various types of
> > > > > > > > human memory work, I would not expect MgT to do much or anything for
> > > > > > > > working memory, but to do a lot for long-term memory formation.
>
> > > > > > > > Working memory depends largely or primarily on maintained electrical
> > > > > > > > patterns within neurons, like what you'd get if you had a bunch of
> > > > > > > > neurons connected to each other in a loop--once excited, the network
> > > > > > > > tends to maintain its activity by itself until it gets shut down by an
> > > > > > > > external source. This would be mediated through the AMPA and kainate
> > > > > > > > receptors for glutamate. However, long-term memory formation requires
> > > > > > > > the NMDA receptors, which do coincidence detection and influence
> > > > > > > > intracellular calcium levels, which in turn causes the neuron to
> > > > > > > > change which proteins it produces.
>
> > > > > > > > I've also been taking MgT, but it's still too early for me to consider
> > > > > > > > my observations worth reporting.
>
> > > > > > > > Jonathan
>
> > > > > > > > On May 4, 2011, at 7:39 AM, whoisbambam wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I know this: it didnt help my 'working' memory AEB my dnb level of 4.
>
> > > > > > > > > However, it does seem to make me 'think better'. I seem to 'remember'
> > > > > > > > > incidentals better--even long past memories. I can also 'debate' with
> > > > > > > > > my wife better.
>
> > > > > > > > > :)
>
> > > > > > > > > It seems i can bring better, more lucid facts/details to the table.
>
> > > > > > > > > It also seems to give me more 'mental stamina'--i dont get mentally
> > > > > > > > > fatigued as much as i used to. Esp. if i rest 10minutes and come
> > > > > > > > > back--
> > > > > > > > > it is as if i am totally refreshed.
>
> > > > > > > > > This is the only subtle difference i have noticed.
>
> > > > > > > > > I am about to study VOLUMES of information--too many hundreds of hours
> > > > > > > > > of video (medical-related videos--have to get back in shape).
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