Re: IQ Estimation

agreed.

there has frequently been an association between language/writing
ability and aptitude--it shouldnt be ignored.

there frequently are exceptions to the bell curve, but as a rule......

there are few dimwits that can write at the graduate level, and if one
were to pool the IQs of both populations, a pattern emerges.

instead, i think we should focus on IMPROVING what we have.

:)

something i am in dire need of myself.

On May 22, 9:09 pm, ao <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So you would argue that the literary work similar in form and content
> to that produced by some of the greatest living (or dead) writers,
> philosophers, critics, etc., can be matched today by someone of
> average or slightly-above-average intelligence?
>
> Ceteris paribus, I wouldn't. I can say with some confidence that the
> capacity to more or less express oneself elegantly and clearly in
> writing begins at the 2.5 sigma level (above the developed world
> average, not the general world average).
>
> From my experience, I wasn't taught in a schoolroom on how to write: I
> learned to do so on my own through self-motivated "practice". I would
> argue that someone of considerably above-average intelligence can do
> the same with even a modest degree of eloquence - much more so than
> someone of only average ability. Have you seen what people of average
> ability _can_ do? Most college graduates are a standard deviation
> above the norm as a bare minimum.
>
> It makes very little sense to me that those who can't do so should be
> placed above everyone else in your psychometric estimation. If someone
> cannot express themselves effectively, I would argue only with tongue
> in cheek that they are in some sense "intelligent".
>
> Perhaps we see the ramifications of the three R's being emphasized
> less and less these days...
>
> argumzio, suffering the wise gladly
>
> On May 22, 8:32 pm, milestones <wgweathe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > So, going back to the OP, the rule is: high quality communication
> > > approximately measures high intelligence; absent high quality
> > > communication output, an individual's intelligence is put into some
> > > doubt (i.e., capacity to generate such output).
>
> > Still, that becomes an entirely subjective assessment. I agree that,
> > perhaps, subjective assessments are what matter in the real world, but
> > the huge improvements that can be made in composition and written
> > expression, indicate that this sort of communicative intelligence that
> > you speak of is largely a matter of practice and education. Thus,
> > based on my experience, to make prima facie assessments on one's
> > intelligence based on written expression, is flawed.

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