Re: IQ Estimation

since my iq is on the lower spectrum........i would have the highest
returns.

just figuring out how to do this via dnb as i have been stuck and
there appears to be no improvement.

On May 22, 9:41 pm, ao <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm certainly not arguing that certain individuals with high
> linguistic facility aren't stupid, just that they possess a requisite
> intelligence associated with their skill. For instance, one can high
> verbal ability but very poor fluid ability (and to some extent even
> this will show itself in such a person's writing - don't ask me how, I
> can just tell).
>
> One has to invest g to get s (skill) dividends; the more g one has to
> invest, the more one can invest in many areas at once. That's the
> point of Spearman's Law of Diminishing Returns. Anyway, you most
> certainly can improve your skills at any time - just invest what you
> have.
>
> argumzio
>
> On May 22, 9:19 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > agreed.
>
> > there has frequently been an association between language/writing
> > ability and aptitude--it shouldnt be ignored.
>
> > there frequently are exceptions to the bell curve, but as a rule......
>
> > there are few dimwits that can write at the graduate level, and if one
> > were to pool the IQs of both populations, a pattern emerges.
>
> > instead, i think we should focus on IMPROVING what we have.
>
> > :)
>
> > something i am in dire need of myself.
>
> > On May 22, 9:09 pm, ao <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > So you would argue that the literary work similar in form and content
> > > to that produced by some of the greatest living (or dead) writers,
> > > philosophers, critics, etc., can be matched today by someone of
> > > average or slightly-above-average intelligence?
>
> > > Ceteris paribus, I wouldn't. I can say with some confidence that the
> > > capacity to more or less express oneself elegantly and clearly in
> > > writing begins at the 2.5 sigma level (above the developed world
> > > average, not the general world average).
>
> > > From my experience, I wasn't taught in a schoolroom on how to write: I
> > > learned to do so on my own through self-motivated "practice". I would
> > > argue that someone of considerably above-average intelligence can do
> > > the same with even a modest degree of eloquence - much more so than
> > > someone of only average ability. Have you seen what people of average
> > > ability _can_ do? Most college graduates are a standard deviation
> > > above the norm as a bare minimum.
>
> > > It makes very little sense to me that those who can't do so should be
> > > placed above everyone else in your psychometric estimation. If someone
> > > cannot express themselves effectively, I would argue only with tongue
> > > in cheek that they are in some sense "intelligent".
>
> > > Perhaps we see the ramifications of the three R's being emphasized
> > > less and less these days...
>
> > > argumzio, suffering the wise gladly
>
> > > On May 22, 8:32 pm, milestones <wgweathe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > So, going back to the OP, the rule is: high quality communication
> > > > > approximately measures high intelligence; absent high quality
> > > > > communication output, an individual's intelligence is put into some
> > > > > doubt (i.e., capacity to generate such output).
>
> > > > Still, that becomes an entirely subjective assessment. I agree that,
> > > > perhaps, subjective assessments are what matter in the real world, but
> > > > the huge improvements that can be made in composition and written
> > > > expression, indicate that this sort of communicative intelligence that
> > > > you speak of is largely a matter of practice and education. Thus,
> > > > based on my experience, to make prima facie assessments on one's
> > > > intelligence based on written expression, is flawed.

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