Saturday, 28 May 2011

Re: Pregnenolone

Last two lines of my post were junk that should have been deleted.

On May 29, 1:39 am, Hoobler <whhoob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regarding congratulations: thank you. I actually was relieved that the
> performance part of it was as high as 112, which might be
> disappointing for some people, but I would have said that mine was
> lower in that regard perhaps...Anyway, yes, it's true: it's not bad,
> and it's apparently at least within the range necessary for what I
> want to do in life, and I should be very grateful for that. (But the
> absent-mindedness is terrible! I mean, it's better now that I've
> gotten a handle on it, but I'm also, as a 30-something now, more
> inclined to expect precision from myself and get more disappointed in
> myself where, when I was younger, I tried to play off being
> disorganized by clowning around.
>
> About hormones/pro-hormones being risky...I think that's true, and
> it's good that that point is raised. I don't have time at the moment,
> but I could describe some pretty erratic behavior that I exhibited
> when I took it: not sleeping was one thing; I'd also get moody and
> overly emotional (probably when the pro-hormone was taking a more
> "feminine" channel through my system, no? I mean, when it was
> converted more into female stuff that I shouldn't have)...I think it
> also made me aggressive sometimes too...Not good, really. You know
> what I think is crucial? Exercising rigorously while taking it and
> also taking very little of it. I think the exercising rigorously
> ensures that it takes a more masculine pathway--becomes testosterone,
> basically, instead of progesterone, which I definitely do not want it
> to! (Obviously, but FYI, I am a man, not a woman!)
>
> Well, all right. That's interesting. Sounds as though the case was
> that people really just had not heard of it. That probably means (1)
> it's not that good--maybe has an especially good (but not necessarily
> a safe) effect on me sometimes and in certain regards but wouldn't for
> other people; (2) it's risky and wisely avoided...Your responses have
> given me pause to reflect on all the negative aspects of it, which I
> definitely did experience...so I think that I'll focus on creatine
> exclusively for the near future at least, do research on it and post
> about it and also play around with it, but I'll leave the pregnenolone
> alone. Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Aha. All right: so you guys just hadn't heard of it. That's
> interesting...This all
>
> On May 27, 5:09 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > i certainly am no expert on it...........
>
> > from what i have read, it is a prohormone that can go many
> > ways........one way is testosterone, thereby increasing libido,
> > lowering hdl, acne, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, etc..........low
> > doses may have some opposite effects (ie 1mg)
>
> > many doses online are way too high supposedly.
>
> > some say to consult a practitioner and consider only 1mg to 5mg for
> > short periods of time, to be tapered off............
>
> > it may have made some mice smarter............
>
> >http://www.antiaginggroup.com/index.cfm/id/188/PageName/Pregnenolone....
>
> > source naturals makes a 10mg tablet that i guess could be cut in
> > quarters, and douglas labs makes a 5mg sublingual tablet that could
> > probly simply be cut in half  or quarters for even better
> > control...........
>
> > but i dont think i could recommend this stuff............my experience
> > with hormones is that they can have many untoward effects, and this
> > being a prohormone, it is difficult to say what paths may be
> > chosen..........
>
> > On May 27, 3:51 pm, Gwern Branwen <gwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Hoobler <whhoob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Obviously, you should feel free to respond to any part of this post,
> > > > but among my main questions besides, Why hasn't anybody written about
> > > > it yet here? is, Is it probably my metabolic problem--low thyroid/
> > > > testosterone?
>
> > > I've never heard of it before. The Wikipedia description is fairly
> > > sketchy, there's next to no discussion on Reddit
> > > (http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/search?q=Pregnenolone&restrict_sr=on),
> > > and the Imminst discussions generally seem to be for hormonal purposes
> > > and not the usual humdrum nootropic.
>
> > > --
> > > gwernhttp://www.gwern.net

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