Saturday, 28 May 2011

Re: Pregnenolone

Oh, about 4.5 being where I was/am stuck: that was on DNB, not TNB. On
TNB, I train at n=3 with colors, letters, and position. My best is
78%.

I forget where I saw that posting about how people with such and such
IQ tend to get stuck at such and such DNB levels and that indicated
that 4.5DNB and 125IQ were correlates of each other...Maybe, it wasn't
on this bulletin board; somewhere else. Also, it was just someone's
observation, not an "official" theory, but I did find it striking
since it seemed to be right on in my case even though my case was only
one of his projections/observations.

On May 29, 1:41 am, Hoobler <whhoob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last two lines of my post were junk that should have been deleted.
>
> On May 29, 1:39 am, Hoobler <whhoob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Regarding congratulations: thank you. I actually was relieved that the
> > performance part of it was as high as 112, which might be
> > disappointing for some people, but I would have said that mine was
> > lower in that regard perhaps...Anyway, yes, it's true: it's not bad,
> > and it's apparently at least within the range necessary for what I
> > want to do in life, and I should be very grateful for that. (But the
> > absent-mindedness is terrible! I mean, it's better now that I've
> > gotten a handle on it, but I'm also, as a 30-something now, more
> > inclined to expect precision from myself and get more disappointed in
> > myself where, when I was younger, I tried to play off being
> > disorganized by clowning around.
>
> > About hormones/pro-hormones being risky...I think that's true, and
> > it's good that that point is raised. I don't have time at the moment,
> > but I could describe some pretty erratic behavior that I exhibited
> > when I took it: not sleeping was one thing; I'd also get moody and
> > overly emotional (probably when the pro-hormone was taking a more
> > "feminine" channel through my system, no? I mean, when it was
> > converted more into female stuff that I shouldn't have)...I think it
> > also made me aggressive sometimes too...Not good, really. You know
> > what I think is crucial? Exercising rigorously while taking it and
> > also taking very little of it. I think the exercising rigorously
> > ensures that it takes a more masculine pathway--becomes testosterone,
> > basically, instead of progesterone, which I definitely do not want it
> > to! (Obviously, but FYI, I am a man, not a woman!)
>
> > Well, all right. That's interesting. Sounds as though the case was
> > that people really just had not heard of it. That probably means (1)
> > it's not that good--maybe has an especially good (but not necessarily
> > a safe) effect on me sometimes and in certain regards but wouldn't for
> > other people; (2) it's risky and wisely avoided...Your responses have
> > given me pause to reflect on all the negative aspects of it, which I
> > definitely did experience...so I think that I'll focus on creatine
> > exclusively for the near future at least, do research on it and post
> > about it and also play around with it, but I'll leave the pregnenolone
> > alone. Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> > Aha. All right: so you guys just hadn't heard of it. That's
> > interesting...This all
>
> > On May 27, 5:09 pm, whoisbambam <smath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > i certainly am no expert on it...........
>
> > > from what i have read, it is a prohormone that can go many
> > > ways........one way is testosterone, thereby increasing libido,
> > > lowering hdl, acne, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, etc..........low
> > > doses may have some opposite effects (ie 1mg)
>
> > > many doses online are way too high supposedly.
>
> > > some say to consult a practitioner and consider only 1mg to 5mg for
> > > short periods of time, to be tapered off............
>
> > > it may have made some mice smarter............
>
> > >http://www.antiaginggroup.com/index.cfm/id/188/PageName/Pregnenolone....
>
> > > source naturals makes a 10mg tablet that i guess could be cut in
> > > quarters, and douglas labs makes a 5mg sublingual tablet that could
> > > probly simply be cut in half  or quarters for even better
> > > control...........
>
> > > but i dont think i could recommend this stuff............my experience
> > > with hormones is that they can have many untoward effects, and this
> > > being a prohormone, it is difficult to say what paths may be
> > > chosen..........
>
> > > On May 27, 3:51 pm, Gwern Branwen <gwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Hoobler <whhoob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Obviously, you should feel free to respond to any part of this post,
> > > > > but among my main questions besides, Why hasn't anybody written about
> > > > > it yet here? is, Is it probably my metabolic problem--low thyroid/
> > > > > testosterone?
>
> > > > I've never heard of it before. The Wikipedia description is fairly
> > > > sketchy, there's next to no discussion on Reddit
> > > > (http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/search?q=Pregnenolone&restrict_sr=on),
> > > > and the Imminst discussions generally seem to be for hormonal purposes
> > > > and not the usual humdrum nootropic.
>
> > > > --
> > > > gwernhttp://www.gwern.net

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