Monday, 30 May 2011

Re: Triple Nback benefits

Also, Jaeggi's recent paper (2010, The relationship between n-back...)
showed the n-back training group rising to n-back levels with error
bars around 6.5-7.5. Given that these were just college students,
there were probably several who would have scored around 100 on an IQ
type measure.


On May 31, 10:36 am, milestones <wgweathe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 9:21 am, "The.Fourth.Deviation." <davidsky...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > First, everything is hard until your brain adapts to it.
>
> > Second, I personally conclude that .5 is a strong link between gf and
> > DNB, but it still leaves room for a lot of other factors, which is why
> > DNB only predicts part of gf. That is why people can achieve high N
> > levels, but still have a lower IQ. I believe that a person of IQ 100
> > can achieve levels 5+ through training because PIQ/GF is only one
> > aspect of DNB performance. And DNB can be learned, making it harder
> > for us to link performance with IQ. A newbie genius will most likely
> > be outperformed by a mediocre DNB devotee. I predict that a person of
> > IQ 100 could even achieve DNB 6 or 7, or higher, after sustained
> > training efforts.
>
> One thing to note, though as I have many times in this group. There is
> a difference between a person with a average/normal IQ versus someone
> who may be functioning at average IQ but has greater potential and who
> may in fact have an IQ in excess (or far in excess) of what they are
> testing at. Their performance could be depressed by  learning
> disabilities, ADHD, depression, schizophrenia, manic depression, or a
> number of things which WM training -- along with other interventions
> --- may help in varying degrees. For someone without any impediments
> to their potential, interventions like DNB are most likely far less
> efficacious and IQ will likely move less (since day to day functioning
> and theoretical potential are already close together). This could be a
> person of average intelligence or a gifted individual. If I had to
> guess, this group seems to attract people with above average
> intelligence but who are not living up their potential for the
> aforementioned reasons. For me, prior to training, my WM was mediocre
> compared to my long term memory, which was quite good, so DNB has been
> an optimal intervention. My example shows that if someone has strong
> long term memory, and comparably lower WM, then DNB might help
> functioning a lot. But then, not everyone will experience this, and
> other interventions may be preferable to DNB depending on the issues
> the person is dealing with.

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